pappu
06-30 12:49 PM
From Immigration Policy Center:
June 30, 2010
Washington, D.C. -Tomorrow, Thursday, July 1st, President Obama will make what is being described by the New York Times as "a major speech on immigration" at American University in Washington, D.C. The President is expected to step forward to reassert the leadership of the Federal Government on the issue of immigration.
While a federal lawsuit against Arizona's SB1070 now seems imminent, the President must address the underlying issues that led to passage of the Arizona law. We hope the President will squarely address the public's frustration with a lack of workable solutions on immigration. He must place this frustration in context - lack of federal action leads to growing impetus in the states to pass laws, no matter what their cost, simply to try to resolve the impasse. The President should address this frustration, but should also address the undisputed polling that shows that Americans want comprehensive immigration reform. This can be his moment to bring people together by laying out a framework that will actually move Congress to complete workable legislation.
We also hope that the President avoids some of the typical election chatter on immigration, which tends to turn the issue into a political contest of who can talk the toughest. Rarely does the debate move beyond the issue of further fortifying our southern border. While border security is a necessary component of comprehensive immigration reform, we cannot stop there. Real reform must look past campaign politics and find solutions that will allow communities to live and work together without the anger and recriminations that have dominated this issue for years. We hope the President's speech will go beyond issues of border security and discuss with the same enthusiasm strategies to create a 21st century immigration system - a system which invests in ideas and programs that support family and community cohesion, promotes fairness and individual accountability, supports immigrant integration, and helps us attract the best and brightest from around the world.
"The crisis in Arizona was created by an absence of leadership and commitment by the Federal Government to fix our broken immigration system. My hope is that the President will use this speech as an opportunity to reassert federal authority over immigration law and policy, and lay out his vision for a path forward," said Benjamin Johnson, Executive Director of the American Immigration Council, who will attend the speech on Thursday. "Enforcement of our laws is important, but the President must rise above the angry and misguided political rhetoric that creates and then feeds a never-ending appetite for punishment. While a lawsuit by the Department of Justice is a necessary legal step, a lawsuit alone will not end the vacuum created by the lack of workable immigration laws and leadership to make that a reality. Over the last year, the President and his administration have expressed a willingness and desire to pursue a comprehensive reform strategy. Sadly, too few politicians have had the courage to stand with him on this important issue. The true measure of the President's commitment to this issue is whether he will create his own strategy for moving reform forward and whether he will expose those in both parties who refuse to step forward and create a workable, humane immigration policy that will strengthen America."
As the Department of Justice takes up the legal challenge, President Obama - through this speech and continuing actions - can place the responsibility for immigration reform back where it constitutionally belongs: in the hands of the Federal Government.
June 30, 2010
Washington, D.C. -Tomorrow, Thursday, July 1st, President Obama will make what is being described by the New York Times as "a major speech on immigration" at American University in Washington, D.C. The President is expected to step forward to reassert the leadership of the Federal Government on the issue of immigration.
While a federal lawsuit against Arizona's SB1070 now seems imminent, the President must address the underlying issues that led to passage of the Arizona law. We hope the President will squarely address the public's frustration with a lack of workable solutions on immigration. He must place this frustration in context - lack of federal action leads to growing impetus in the states to pass laws, no matter what their cost, simply to try to resolve the impasse. The President should address this frustration, but should also address the undisputed polling that shows that Americans want comprehensive immigration reform. This can be his moment to bring people together by laying out a framework that will actually move Congress to complete workable legislation.
We also hope that the President avoids some of the typical election chatter on immigration, which tends to turn the issue into a political contest of who can talk the toughest. Rarely does the debate move beyond the issue of further fortifying our southern border. While border security is a necessary component of comprehensive immigration reform, we cannot stop there. Real reform must look past campaign politics and find solutions that will allow communities to live and work together without the anger and recriminations that have dominated this issue for years. We hope the President's speech will go beyond issues of border security and discuss with the same enthusiasm strategies to create a 21st century immigration system - a system which invests in ideas and programs that support family and community cohesion, promotes fairness and individual accountability, supports immigrant integration, and helps us attract the best and brightest from around the world.
"The crisis in Arizona was created by an absence of leadership and commitment by the Federal Government to fix our broken immigration system. My hope is that the President will use this speech as an opportunity to reassert federal authority over immigration law and policy, and lay out his vision for a path forward," said Benjamin Johnson, Executive Director of the American Immigration Council, who will attend the speech on Thursday. "Enforcement of our laws is important, but the President must rise above the angry and misguided political rhetoric that creates and then feeds a never-ending appetite for punishment. While a lawsuit by the Department of Justice is a necessary legal step, a lawsuit alone will not end the vacuum created by the lack of workable immigration laws and leadership to make that a reality. Over the last year, the President and his administration have expressed a willingness and desire to pursue a comprehensive reform strategy. Sadly, too few politicians have had the courage to stand with him on this important issue. The true measure of the President's commitment to this issue is whether he will create his own strategy for moving reform forward and whether he will expose those in both parties who refuse to step forward and create a workable, humane immigration policy that will strengthen America."
As the Department of Justice takes up the legal challenge, President Obama - through this speech and continuing actions - can place the responsibility for immigration reform back where it constitutionally belongs: in the hands of the Federal Government.
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chicago60607
09-23 12:38 PM
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html This links says it is at 1pm EST, I am curious from where are you getting this 3 pm EST.
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Jimi_Hendrix
10-22 12:45 PM
While this question may sound redundant, I want to make an honest attempt to understand it. How does creating media awareness translate into making politicians understand the complicated issues suffered by legal immigrants? Further do they give any weightage to the fact that the stories are in the media and therefore they need attention?
I am biased towards the opinion that we might have already run enough media stories. I believe that the real fight now is to convince the politicians to do something about it. Propaganda and lobbying is the only thing that works with politicians in this country. And you have to choose a medium that politicians directly refer to. Meeting politicians and their representatives in person is most effective I believe. With due respect to your views, Pappu, can we discuss some of these questions?
I am biased towards the opinion that we might have already run enough media stories. I believe that the real fight now is to convince the politicians to do something about it. Propaganda and lobbying is the only thing that works with politicians in this country. And you have to choose a medium that politicians directly refer to. Meeting politicians and their representatives in person is most effective I believe. With due respect to your views, Pappu, can we discuss some of these questions?
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suggestor101
03-21 10:42 PM
Dear friends,
As many of you are well aware, it has been about 50 days since IV was started. Since then, we have come a long way in setting up a platform to voice our concerns. We also established an able alliance with QGA to have a powerful channel for our voices to be heard on the hill.
It is now game time!!
Two very significant legislative vehicles, namely the PACE bill and Comprehensive immigration bill are right on the corner. PACE is scheduled for discussion end of Feb, and the comprehensive Immigration bill beginning of March. In this dynamic legislative climate, it if very difficult to predict which of these potential vehicles could bear fruit, or even predict the timeframes accurately. IV�s strategy is to pursue both the bills and push for our goals to be on them.
We are in immediate need of funds for that very purpose. We are seriously low on gas right now, for the journey ahead that we are only just starting on. We have only raised $30,000 in the last 50 days; even more alarming, fund raising has gone down drastically in the last 2 weeks. At our current burn rate, we will be out of money in a month or so, just when we expect the bills to come up for discussion on the Senate floors. As you can expect and appreciate, there is a cost for achieving anything politically. IV has already demonstrated a great deal of leadership and persistence to work on retrogression relief and labor backlog elimination. Many IV members will start making trips to DC in the coming weeks to meet lawmakers at the hill. We need your help NOW!
Members that have not yet contribute money, please do so TODAY! And members that have already contributed please consider another contribution. We need all hands on deck. Also pass on the message of the immediate need of funds to your friends.
If you have questions, as always, please send a note to info@immigrationvoice.org
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As many of you are well aware, it has been about 50 days since IV was started. Since then, we have come a long way in setting up a platform to voice our concerns. We also established an able alliance with QGA to have a powerful channel for our voices to be heard on the hill.
It is now game time!!
Two very significant legislative vehicles, namely the PACE bill and Comprehensive immigration bill are right on the corner. PACE is scheduled for discussion end of Feb, and the comprehensive Immigration bill beginning of March. In this dynamic legislative climate, it if very difficult to predict which of these potential vehicles could bear fruit, or even predict the timeframes accurately. IV�s strategy is to pursue both the bills and push for our goals to be on them.
We are in immediate need of funds for that very purpose. We are seriously low on gas right now, for the journey ahead that we are only just starting on. We have only raised $30,000 in the last 50 days; even more alarming, fund raising has gone down drastically in the last 2 weeks. At our current burn rate, we will be out of money in a month or so, just when we expect the bills to come up for discussion on the Senate floors. As you can expect and appreciate, there is a cost for achieving anything politically. IV has already demonstrated a great deal of leadership and persistence to work on retrogression relief and labor backlog elimination. Many IV members will start making trips to DC in the coming weeks to meet lawmakers at the hill. We need your help NOW!
Members that have not yet contribute money, please do so TODAY! And members that have already contributed please consider another contribution. We need all hands on deck. Also pass on the message of the immediate need of funds to your friends.
If you have questions, as always, please send a note to info@immigrationvoice.org
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07-09 02:35 PM
I just sent the flowers to reach on 10th. BG it will make a difference.!!
unknown123
04-21 06:24 PM
I also have a 3 year Bachelor's degree (BSc Physics) + 3 Year masters degree (MCA) from India. I would like to get it evaluated. Could you please let me know which education evaluation agency you used?
Is you bachelor and master degree in the same or related discipline? I read somewhere that the bachelors and master's will have to be in the same or related fields for it to be considered equivalent to US Masters degree.
Yes, my Bachelor and Master's are in same/related discipline. I think you can use any education evaluator but make sure that are aware of Indian Education System. We have responded to the RFE. I will post the outcome for the benefit for all.
Is you bachelor and master degree in the same or related discipline? I read somewhere that the bachelors and master's will have to be in the same or related fields for it to be considered equivalent to US Masters degree.
Yes, my Bachelor and Master's are in same/related discipline. I think you can use any education evaluator but make sure that are aware of Indian Education System. We have responded to the RFE. I will post the outcome for the benefit for all.
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reddog
01-27 10:45 PM
It is unlawful for an alien admitted on a non-immigrant visa to own a firearm(with one exception).
So, if you want to own a gun, read on....
The case where this 18 USC 922(g)(5)(B) was mentioned elaborately was United States vs ELRAWY.
And it clearly is re-affirmed what is stated in the law on Unlawful acts(Sec 922) for FIREARMS, that '(g)It shall be unlawful for any person - (5) who, being an alien - (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(26)));
The case: http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/....04-20123.html (http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/448/448.F3d.309.04-20123.html)
The case clearly notes that a person on Adjustment on status remains on the last admitted visa status until the Adjustment of Status is approved. So there is no ambiguity there.
A person even after he has applied for adjustment of status can remain in the country, but for ownership of a gun, he falls back on his visa status.
However, the law clearly states an exception for the person who is an alien that is on a non-immigrant visa - the (y)(2) part:
(y) Provisions Relating to Aliens Admitted Under Nonimmigrant Visas. - (2) Exceptions. - Subsections (d)(5)(B), (g)(5)(B), and (s)(3)(B)(v)(II) do not apply to any alien who has been lawfully admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa, if that
alien is -
(A) admitted to the United States for lawful hunting or sporting purposes or is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States;
Link: http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+535+12++%28%29%2 0%20AND%20%28USC%20w%2F10%20%28922%29%29%3ACITE%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 (http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+535+12++%28%29%2 0%20AND%20%28USC%20w%2F10%20%28922%29%29%3ACITE%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20)
In short, apply and get a Hunting Licence from the State DNR., take the safety courses and then apply for the State firearm ID.
And, if your licensing authority knows about this exception(hunting) in the law, they will issue you a license.
If not, they will reject your application. If so, You might want to bring this section to their notice.
So, if you want to own a gun, read on....
The case where this 18 USC 922(g)(5)(B) was mentioned elaborately was United States vs ELRAWY.
And it clearly is re-affirmed what is stated in the law on Unlawful acts(Sec 922) for FIREARMS, that '(g)It shall be unlawful for any person - (5) who, being an alien - (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(26)));
The case: http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/....04-20123.html (http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/448/448.F3d.309.04-20123.html)
The case clearly notes that a person on Adjustment on status remains on the last admitted visa status until the Adjustment of Status is approved. So there is no ambiguity there.
A person even after he has applied for adjustment of status can remain in the country, but for ownership of a gun, he falls back on his visa status.
However, the law clearly states an exception for the person who is an alien that is on a non-immigrant visa - the (y)(2) part:
(y) Provisions Relating to Aliens Admitted Under Nonimmigrant Visas. - (2) Exceptions. - Subsections (d)(5)(B), (g)(5)(B), and (s)(3)(B)(v)(II) do not apply to any alien who has been lawfully admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa, if that
alien is -
(A) admitted to the United States for lawful hunting or sporting purposes or is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States;
Link: http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+535+12++%28%29%2 0%20AND%20%28USC%20w%2F10%20%28922%29%29%3ACITE%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 (http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+535+12++%28%29%2 0%20AND%20%28USC%20w%2F10%20%28922%29%29%3ACITE%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20)
In short, apply and get a Hunting Licence from the State DNR., take the safety courses and then apply for the State firearm ID.
And, if your licensing authority knows about this exception(hunting) in the law, they will issue you a license.
If not, they will reject your application. If so, You might want to bring this section to their notice.
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GCVictim
07-31 06:54 PM
EB1- U (Always)
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maximus777
08-10 08:05 PM
Let me take a stab at it:
EB2 I - June 2006, EB2 C - Dec 2006
EB3 I/C - Dec 2003
EB2 I - June 2006, EB2 C - Dec 2006
EB3 I/C - Dec 2003
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kowligi
07-23 02:29 PM
Hey Guys,
When applying for CP the consulate we can apply to...does it have to be only the one in your home country (American Embassy in Chennai) or can it be the one in the country of last residence.
I have studied and lived in Canada for 3 years before coming to US. I am wondering if i can choose American Embassy in Montreal as my consulate post (country of last residence) or is my option just the consulate post in country of birth
Any thoughts on this greatly appreciated!!!
When applying for CP the consulate we can apply to...does it have to be only the one in your home country (American Embassy in Chennai) or can it be the one in the country of last residence.
I have studied and lived in Canada for 3 years before coming to US. I am wondering if i can choose American Embassy in Montreal as my consulate post (country of last residence) or is my option just the consulate post in country of birth
Any thoughts on this greatly appreciated!!!
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camarasa
07-20 05:38 PM
Guys
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Or they will find a way to make to make it more difficult to qualify...
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Or they will find a way to make to make it more difficult to qualify...
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07-20 12:03 PM
Hi all,
Though my application reached on 30th June2007(non-working day),our lawyer told us that it will considered as 2nd july reciept.
vaishu
Though my application reached on 30th June2007(non-working day),our lawyer told us that it will considered as 2nd july reciept.
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Gravitation
07-20 03:05 PM
How come we didn't have any phone campaign? What were our lobbyists doing?
I'm glued to C-SPAN whenever anything related to immigration is going on in the senate. This time I wasn't aware of it.
We need to be more alert this time. Maybe a phone campaign or web-fax campaign would have turned the scale! We gotta be more alert.
I'm glued to C-SPAN whenever anything related to immigration is going on in the senate. This time I wasn't aware of it.
We need to be more alert this time. Maybe a phone campaign or web-fax campaign would have turned the scale! We gotta be more alert.
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05-06 02:30 PM
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LostInGCProcess
11-18 11:10 AM
I wasn't moral policing, I was just laying out the legal stand that anybody can have under these circumstances. I am sure that the so called "Desi shop owner" is not so dumb to so flagrantly violate the law when his employee is going by the book, unless the employee is seriously gullible.
I agree it is illegal for employer to charge for H1B, and of course the employer is in violation of the law, but one needs to ascertain that the employee is not a willful accessory to that violation.
sc3, your argument is totally wrong. The employer has violated the H1B rules and most of the employees who come from India for the first time may not know that its illegal to foot the charge for H1b.
Its like telling a woman not to complain to the authorities about the abusive husband, if the husband beats her up, stating that she know it was wrong and so she is party to the wrong doing. Common man!!!
If you are stuck and are exploited, there are protections in Law that would not come after you. There are immunities that apply.
H1B guy, the best course of action for you, in my opinion:
1) consult an attorney.
2) gather as much evidence as possible related to the charging for H1B.
3) find another project.
4) Try to record the conversation between you and your employer. Most state allow to one party consent except California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
You don't have to be afraid of a company that is doing business unethically.
Good Luck!!!
I agree it is illegal for employer to charge for H1B, and of course the employer is in violation of the law, but one needs to ascertain that the employee is not a willful accessory to that violation.
sc3, your argument is totally wrong. The employer has violated the H1B rules and most of the employees who come from India for the first time may not know that its illegal to foot the charge for H1b.
Its like telling a woman not to complain to the authorities about the abusive husband, if the husband beats her up, stating that she know it was wrong and so she is party to the wrong doing. Common man!!!
If you are stuck and are exploited, there are protections in Law that would not come after you. There are immunities that apply.
H1B guy, the best course of action for you, in my opinion:
1) consult an attorney.
2) gather as much evidence as possible related to the charging for H1B.
3) find another project.
4) Try to record the conversation between you and your employer. Most state allow to one party consent except California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
You don't have to be afraid of a company that is doing business unethically.
Good Luck!!!
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saurav_4096
06-19 10:41 AM
See above in Blue.
Nice information. Could you tell me what precautions I have to take now while filing my 485 if if I have intended to use AC21.
Nothing. Just intent to work for sponsoring employer permanently. This intent can, however, change after 180 days of filing I-485 (if it is still pending). Important: This intent should not change until 180 days.
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How does AC-21 will come into play if one files I-485 from previous employer. Previous empoyer will give letter that employment will start by the time GC is issued.
At the time I-485 is filed, I am working with new employer. Is it mandatory to join the previous employer at least for 180 days.
Nice information. Could you tell me what precautions I have to take now while filing my 485 if if I have intended to use AC21.
Nothing. Just intent to work for sponsoring employer permanently. This intent can, however, change after 180 days of filing I-485 (if it is still pending). Important: This intent should not change until 180 days.
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How does AC-21 will come into play if one files I-485 from previous employer. Previous empoyer will give letter that employment will start by the time GC is issued.
At the time I-485 is filed, I am working with new employer. Is it mandatory to join the previous employer at least for 180 days.
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H1bslave
09-26 10:21 AM
I like the idea but �Stopper� may not be right choice. What they gonna do with tens of thousands of stoppers? (stopper prices goes up and company shares too :) ) Don�t create a mess there, send it nicely and politely.
When we sent flowers Gonzalez redirected them to Walter Reed and other hospitals so they reached veterans and same time delivered the message too.
We need something better, but I agree this is time to do something of that nature.
When we sent flowers Gonzalez redirected them to Walter Reed and other hospitals so they reached veterans and same time delivered the message too.
We need something better, but I agree this is time to do something of that nature.
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somegchuh
10-19 12:44 PM
Tell me about it. My wife didn't have a fancy law degree but she had a decent job before we got married and she came to US. She doesn't have any specific skills that will qualify her H1b but she has a MBA. So there isn't much she can do in terms of furthering her education. So she's been stuck at home for the last 4 years.
I have been now for 7 years and still waiting... my wife who graudated law with top honors in a top university in india and was pracicing with a leading corporate law firm joined me in US and to make it good we spent around $65K on her law school graduation here and then another 15K on bar exams preparations for NY and CA. She managed to pull through all this. we decided to have a baby and take care of her wihtout day care the 1st 2years. now my wife sits home since she cannot file a H1 though there are willing employers becuase she has stayed here for 6 years on h4 and my llabor filed 2001 was still in BEC.... what can i do... i left a Director job in fortune 50 company and joined as consultant so that i can make use of a pre-approved labor, then another regression happend and i am still waiting to file 485. I just want to let my wife to work for a couple of year and make use of the effort she spent in her US law school and bar exams and want to return back to India.... but when can i get that 2 years.....
I have been now for 7 years and still waiting... my wife who graudated law with top honors in a top university in india and was pracicing with a leading corporate law firm joined me in US and to make it good we spent around $65K on her law school graduation here and then another 15K on bar exams preparations for NY and CA. She managed to pull through all this. we decided to have a baby and take care of her wihtout day care the 1st 2years. now my wife sits home since she cannot file a H1 though there are willing employers becuase she has stayed here for 6 years on h4 and my llabor filed 2001 was still in BEC.... what can i do... i left a Director job in fortune 50 company and joined as consultant so that i can make use of a pre-approved labor, then another regression happend and i am still waiting to file 485. I just want to let my wife to work for a couple of year and make use of the effort she spent in her US law school and bar exams and want to return back to India.... but when can i get that 2 years.....
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ganguteli
03-19 10:11 AM
Did my post suggest in any way that I was defending the guy? I was only ridiculing those who were bad mouthing him.
Are you suggesting that my post would have scored more points if I came out with more ammunition? I did not post in order to win your accolades. The fact that you felt there is not enough ammunition, suggests to me that you think it is perfectly fine to do all those filthy things I was referring to. This tells me about your moral standard.
You had to assume that I probably have a criminal issue too, and thats why I was defending the original poster? Is that the best your mind can think of?
You are sick and tired of defending our community? Do you imply that most people from our community have turned to criminal acts these days, and so you are tired? Because, I have not seen that around the people that I move around with. Is it all too common in your circles and the people you associate with?
You most probably have half the education that I have, your salary is most likely half that of mine, and your moral standard is probably half that of mine. If I start ridiculing you more, you will suffer sleepless nights. So I won't do it (after this post, I mean).
You don't post bullshit in a public forum, just because you can't see the people you are talking to, infront of you. Would you dare call the original poster 'thief' if he is standing infront of you? Would you call him that, if he is a friend of your roommate and your roommate brings him over to your house? The internet must be a new technology for you. Please learn how to use it to spread some love.
To the poster above you:
It is true that the law does not impose punishments on backstabbers, womanizers, sexual perverts, etc. Prostitution is legal in a lot of countries. The fact that the law permits some things, does not have any bearing on the moral severity or the lack thereof, of those things. Would you choose a 'prostitute' over a 'shop lifter' for a wife? If these are the only 2 options, I would be content with a shop lifter. Would you choose a 'prostitute' because there are no criminal issues involved and you will get your greencard faster?
Even though not many people have posted in support of my post, my reputation has gone up, and yours probably went down. Please don't respond just because you want a revenge.
I will always stand up for the one weak guy who is bullied by a 100 really nice & powerful ones. This can't be called defending the act of 'shop lifting' !!!
You are trying to defend a criminal and thus some people objected to it. Crimes by immigrants, whatever they maybe bring bad repute to their country and the immigrant community.
Are you suggesting that my post would have scored more points if I came out with more ammunition? I did not post in order to win your accolades. The fact that you felt there is not enough ammunition, suggests to me that you think it is perfectly fine to do all those filthy things I was referring to. This tells me about your moral standard.
You had to assume that I probably have a criminal issue too, and thats why I was defending the original poster? Is that the best your mind can think of?
You are sick and tired of defending our community? Do you imply that most people from our community have turned to criminal acts these days, and so you are tired? Because, I have not seen that around the people that I move around with. Is it all too common in your circles and the people you associate with?
You most probably have half the education that I have, your salary is most likely half that of mine, and your moral standard is probably half that of mine. If I start ridiculing you more, you will suffer sleepless nights. So I won't do it (after this post, I mean).
You don't post bullshit in a public forum, just because you can't see the people you are talking to, infront of you. Would you dare call the original poster 'thief' if he is standing infront of you? Would you call him that, if he is a friend of your roommate and your roommate brings him over to your house? The internet must be a new technology for you. Please learn how to use it to spread some love.
To the poster above you:
It is true that the law does not impose punishments on backstabbers, womanizers, sexual perverts, etc. Prostitution is legal in a lot of countries. The fact that the law permits some things, does not have any bearing on the moral severity or the lack thereof, of those things. Would you choose a 'prostitute' over a 'shop lifter' for a wife? If these are the only 2 options, I would be content with a shop lifter. Would you choose a 'prostitute' because there are no criminal issues involved and you will get your greencard faster?
Even though not many people have posted in support of my post, my reputation has gone up, and yours probably went down. Please don't respond just because you want a revenge.
I will always stand up for the one weak guy who is bullied by a 100 really nice & powerful ones. This can't be called defending the act of 'shop lifting' !!!
You are trying to defend a criminal and thus some people objected to it. Crimes by immigrants, whatever they maybe bring bad repute to their country and the immigrant community.
gjoe
09-22 10:49 AM
Maybe they will send it back to us with a note to put in our back were it belongs. LOL
Just trying to be funny:D
Sorry, but I don't agree. This can get annoying. Sending flowers was a different thing a super brilliant idea...but bath-stoppers...where will the USCIS Director forward those?
:-)
Just trying to be funny:D
Sorry, but I don't agree. This can get annoying. Sending flowers was a different thing a super brilliant idea...but bath-stoppers...where will the USCIS Director forward those?
:-)
lvinaykumar
04-12 01:00 PM
calm down people IV is doing just fine.....we need to stay focused....
