walking_dude
02-13 01:26 PM
I request you to rise above your tunnel vision of viewing people as Indians, Chinese and ROW. Start thinking about people as individuals. Then you'll see the light.
By stating that through EB immigration one country is monopolizing the 'agenda' (what freaking agenda?), you are just regurgitating the spittle thrown by racist organizations like NumbersUSA and StormFront. I don't see any difference between your view and theirs. You both consider us "an invasion"! They are more upfront. You do it in a more subtle way.
I was responding to threats we keep receiving on the forum that somehow removing the country will split the movement. Wanted to give some delusioned members a reality check.
Finally you hit the nail on its head. That’s why the per country limit is there so no one country with larger population can monopolize any agenda the way you are trying to do with IV.
By stating that through EB immigration one country is monopolizing the 'agenda' (what freaking agenda?), you are just regurgitating the spittle thrown by racist organizations like NumbersUSA and StormFront. I don't see any difference between your view and theirs. You both consider us "an invasion"! They are more upfront. You do it in a more subtle way.
I was responding to threats we keep receiving on the forum that somehow removing the country will split the movement. Wanted to give some delusioned members a reality check.
Finally you hit the nail on its head. That’s why the per country limit is there so no one country with larger population can monopolize any agenda the way you are trying to do with IV.
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grupak
12-13 12:04 PM
--I think, per country quota system was framed with diversification as underlying principle, not discrimination.
Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.
If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.
This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.
Fairness or not is not the issue. Question is can it be challenged in a court? Diversity at work place is encouraged through outreach for example. But you cannot discriminate in employment based on national origin. Employers can't put quotas for employee diversity. Employment based immigration I don't think can count because part of the requirement for holding the job is that the employee have a valid work authorization.
For example, someones H1b 6yrs runs out the without possibility of extension, you cannot cry discrimination from the employer for not hiring you beyond 6yrs. As I said, the employers don't force you to not change job or job title. People don't because they will lose their GC or spot in the GC queue.
As an unrelated side note, the current quota system is something that has evolved from past policies some of which was used to restrict citizens of certain countries.
Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.
If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.
This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.
Fairness or not is not the issue. Question is can it be challenged in a court? Diversity at work place is encouraged through outreach for example. But you cannot discriminate in employment based on national origin. Employers can't put quotas for employee diversity. Employment based immigration I don't think can count because part of the requirement for holding the job is that the employee have a valid work authorization.
For example, someones H1b 6yrs runs out the without possibility of extension, you cannot cry discrimination from the employer for not hiring you beyond 6yrs. As I said, the employers don't force you to not change job or job title. People don't because they will lose their GC or spot in the GC queue.
As an unrelated side note, the current quota system is something that has evolved from past policies some of which was used to restrict citizens of certain countries.
unseenguy
03-27 04:07 PM
I think Laloo will make a good PM with external support.
It should be performance based ;)
It should be performance based ;)
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nozerd
03-20 11:37 AM
What makes you think we will not file Canadian taxes ? Ofcourse we will file taxes.
No one is forcing anyonme to apply or move to Canada. Also why compare US and Canada . We are going there because US is not giving GC and we dont want to live in turmoil for years.
Compare US and Canada only when both options are open for you.
I will repeat an analogy I had given earlier to describe Canada/USA compare.
Say you are a pure vegeterian. You go to a restauraunt where you have 2 choices masala dosa and mutton biryani. Lets say the mutton biryani is supposed to be specilaity of that place and is awesome but still the poor veg guy has to choose masals dosa because he has no other choice. Telling him the mutton biryani is excellent is pointless correct !
As much as I see you guys choosing Canada as an option, I also see you misusing that option. If you really want to select Canada as an option then you are better of moving to Windsor and working in Detroit. If you show a canadian address (that means you are living in canada), you should also pay canadian taxes (based on your US income). Just showing a canadian address is no good if you don't pay canadian taxes.
No one is forcing anyonme to apply or move to Canada. Also why compare US and Canada . We are going there because US is not giving GC and we dont want to live in turmoil for years.
Compare US and Canada only when both options are open for you.
I will repeat an analogy I had given earlier to describe Canada/USA compare.
Say you are a pure vegeterian. You go to a restauraunt where you have 2 choices masala dosa and mutton biryani. Lets say the mutton biryani is supposed to be specilaity of that place and is awesome but still the poor veg guy has to choose masals dosa because he has no other choice. Telling him the mutton biryani is excellent is pointless correct !
As much as I see you guys choosing Canada as an option, I also see you misusing that option. If you really want to select Canada as an option then you are better of moving to Windsor and working in Detroit. If you show a canadian address (that means you are living in canada), you should also pay canadian taxes (based on your US income). Just showing a canadian address is no good if you don't pay canadian taxes.
PlainSpeak
01-14 11:19 AM
I love this thread. Plainspeak is a worthless guy with worthless opinion entertaining all of us with silly thread and responding to everyone. Dude did you get some problem in life and have so much time to write? If you really want something you could have done something till now.
You do not even want to meet any lawmaker. You believe in watching CSpan and lawyers lobby for you. Go and contact CSpan and lawyers to help you. Why are you here?
You do not even want to meet any lawmaker. No i donot want to meet any law maker especially representing IV because i do not beleive what IV proposes (and which i have to rep[eate to teh law maker) is doing is going to do good to my personal case of GC (and yes if you want to call me selfish go ahead but remember eveyrone here is becasue they want to do something about thier personal GC case so everyone is selfish)
You believe in watching CSpan and lawyers lobby for you. Go and contact CSpan and lawyers to help you. Yes i believe in watching CSpan and lawyers lobby becasue that gives me an understanding as to what direction a bill is taking or for that matter what is the hope iof a immigration provision in a specific bill. Of course i do not come into teh forum and start a thread and give a minute bny minute uopdate of cspan like some memebers do.
Why are you here? I am here because any thing which impacts my GC case impacts me and i am here to ensure that
You do not even want to meet any lawmaker. You believe in watching CSpan and lawyers lobby for you. Go and contact CSpan and lawyers to help you. Why are you here?
You do not even want to meet any lawmaker. No i donot want to meet any law maker especially representing IV because i do not beleive what IV proposes (and which i have to rep[eate to teh law maker) is doing is going to do good to my personal case of GC (and yes if you want to call me selfish go ahead but remember eveyrone here is becasue they want to do something about thier personal GC case so everyone is selfish)
You believe in watching CSpan and lawyers lobby for you. Go and contact CSpan and lawyers to help you. Yes i believe in watching CSpan and lawyers lobby becasue that gives me an understanding as to what direction a bill is taking or for that matter what is the hope iof a immigration provision in a specific bill. Of course i do not come into teh forum and start a thread and give a minute bny minute uopdate of cspan like some memebers do.
Why are you here? I am here because any thing which impacts my GC case impacts me and i am here to ensure that
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msp1976
02-18 10:12 PM
I understand that there is concern about people from visitor visa category (Tourist B1 B2)would be filing for green cards and that shall cause the retrogression to be perpetual...a few adjustments to the applicable statute can rectify that...
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snram4
01-18 12:39 PM
There is no doubt Everyone knows that H1b and GC laws are crazy. For that we need to fight to change the law but should not encourage to violate the law. If USCIS violates law lawsuit should be filed. That is the rightway.
Isn't that the point what all anti-consulting folks are making here ? They want all existing laws (plus all laws they themselves created to satisfy their sadistic self) to be strictly followed. If that is the case snram4's relative should have been deported.
What many do not understand is H1B laws are insane and irrational. Many from our country doesn't have the guts to fight crazy laws. All they are good at is screwing their own fellow country men out of jealousy or selfishness.
Do all these folks follow law judiciously in their life ? I don't think so. Some of the folks here acting like bhagat singh came to this stage of life climbing over loads of corruption.
Isn't that the point what all anti-consulting folks are making here ? They want all existing laws (plus all laws they themselves created to satisfy their sadistic self) to be strictly followed. If that is the case snram4's relative should have been deported.
What many do not understand is H1B laws are insane and irrational. Many from our country doesn't have the guts to fight crazy laws. All they are good at is screwing their own fellow country men out of jealousy or selfishness.
Do all these folks follow law judiciously in their life ? I don't think so. Some of the folks here acting like bhagat singh came to this stage of life climbing over loads of corruption.
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akred
06-12 12:04 PM
Now to prove my point that we had all of today's similar issues then. Here is my after GC post.
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=84252
I hope you people wouldn't simply jump to a conclusion that I was lucky. I went through all the travails of layoffs, GC backlogs etc.
Peace !!
You benefited from ISN (IV predecessor)'s efforts to get AC21 passed with a visa recapture. That visa recapture lifted the retrogression that had set in by 2000. Without that recapture (worth 100K+ visas) it is doubtful your PD would be current today.
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=84252
I hope you people wouldn't simply jump to a conclusion that I was lucky. I went through all the travails of layoffs, GC backlogs etc.
Peace !!
You benefited from ISN (IV predecessor)'s efforts to get AC21 passed with a visa recapture. That visa recapture lifted the retrogression that had set in by 2000. Without that recapture (worth 100K+ visas) it is doubtful your PD would be current today.
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taarine
07-21 05:02 PM
Folks, let's not stereotype desis or any particular race. I ran into this Malaysian couple of Chinese descent who approached my wife and I at IKEA in the Chicago area. They tried some of the same techniques as described in this thread...
I was very surprised and confused because we had no connection in terms of race, native language, or look. I am hard core - lungi-dhari desi :) So you see it's the Amway/Quixtar/BWW culture and nothing to do with any race, regionalism or language. My $0.2
I was very surprised and confused because we had no connection in terms of race, native language, or look. I am hard core - lungi-dhari desi :) So you see it's the Amway/Quixtar/BWW culture and nothing to do with any race, regionalism or language. My $0.2
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thomachan72
09-17 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=arunmurthy;916610]Cousin of my friend got an email that his card production has been ordered.
He falls in EB3I (PD Aug. 2005). I could not believe it but my friend told me that
EB3I would see significant movement in coming months.
Gus Hang on and tighten your seat belts. We will have a wild ride if he is true.[/QUOTE
Really?? are you sure??
He falls in EB3I (PD Aug. 2005). I could not believe it but my friend told me that
EB3I would see significant movement in coming months.
Gus Hang on and tighten your seat belts. We will have a wild ride if he is true.[/QUOTE
Really?? are you sure??
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newuser
09-04 01:06 PM
I just saw within Half an hour my rating points went down from 3000 to just 500...
Who esle have the time on earth to keep reducing my points apart from the person who has previledge to do it...
This is a classic example of how ones power can be misused to prove their point and politics and corruption at its best. Preach something and do something else....
Never walk the Talk...
Hats off to you Mr. Chandu.....
Its because there are mute spectators who are giving greens or red based on what they think is right
I don't believe CHANDUV23 & _Truefacts are the same
Who esle have the time on earth to keep reducing my points apart from the person who has previledge to do it...
This is a classic example of how ones power can be misused to prove their point and politics and corruption at its best. Preach something and do something else....
Never walk the Talk...
Hats off to you Mr. Chandu.....
Its because there are mute spectators who are giving greens or red based on what they think is right
I don't believe CHANDUV23 & _Truefacts are the same
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09-24 03:43 PM
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_TrueFacts
09-03 11:25 PM
If you don't know the difference between Policies and Politics I cannot help it.I'm talking about policies created by Govt in Power
That's all I can say....Good luck
CHANDUV23
And your ID is revealed _TrueFacts....That's all I can say and which u are very well aware of.
breddy2000,
Other than your unprecedented love for YSR there is nothing new in your postings and you are rambling on id's. How does it matter to you.
That's all I can say....Good luck
CHANDUV23
And your ID is revealed _TrueFacts....That's all I can say and which u are very well aware of.
breddy2000,
Other than your unprecedented love for YSR there is nothing new in your postings and you are rambling on id's. How does it matter to you.
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snathan
01-15 06:37 PM
That is true. No one knows the impact of outsourcing. Because no public data is available unlike H1b or L1. If american public gets exact data about outsourcing then they will oppose that also and goverment has to act. But there is no legal binding for Government or Corporations to give data about outsourcing. Some time back most manufacturing went silently out of USA and when people started realizing it was too late to act. But relaxing immigration will not prevent outsourcing as everything is based on cost
Then USA become USSR and go down the toilet....
Then USA become USSR and go down the toilet....
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kumarc123
10-06 07:22 PM
We should follow up on this. US Economy really can take advantage of our buying power. If they give us GC, people will start buying and stop sending their savings to off-shore. Also, buying each house comes with at least 50K other expenses (remodelling, furniture etc) and that will also help the economy.
IV should follow up on this topic with Lawmaker and see if they can understand the logic here.
I can't concur with you less, we need to send this message to American people, also immigrants in this country are the ones, who start maximum numbr of small businesses, more number of borrowing of laons from banks etc
Lets make something happen,
IV should follow up on this topic with Lawmaker and see if they can understand the logic here.
I can't concur with you less, we need to send this message to American people, also immigrants in this country are the ones, who start maximum numbr of small businesses, more number of borrowing of laons from banks etc
Lets make something happen,
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bobby
07-04 12:51 PM
My suggestions:
"Door slams shut for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants in the US"
"US closes the door for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants"
"US isolates highly skilled legal immigrants"
"Broken Legal immigration system harmful to US competitiveness"
"Legal Immigration system in shambles"
I had started working on a letter myself but will wait for yours....here's my initial scribbles fyi....
Law abiding skilled legal immigrants persecuted by government misstep
On 7/2/07 the door was slammed shut for many skilled legal immigrants without notice while only 2 weeks earlier these same legal immigrants had been notified that the final stage of their immigration i.e.: green card processing, could begin. This occurred not because these legal immigrants had not followed the rules but rather due to scandalous government actions. These actions have caused outrage & devastation amongst skilled legal immigrants and immigration attorneys alike who question the government�s credibility and the government�s disregard for precedent and the law. The results may be costly litigation and a class action lawsuit by the governing body, the American Immigration Lawyers Association against the government.
Much focus has been placed on illegal immigrants in this country. Yet, the broken immigration system holds ominous consequences for skilled legal immigrants which the US needs to remain competitive and at the forefront of technological and medical development. The obsolete immigration laws do not address this need and government missteps further contribute to the persecution of law abiding skilled legal immigrants who wait patiently in line and live with severe restrictions for many years while their immigration cases are processed.
....I was going to continue with information on the visa bulleting and IV etc.....
"Door slams shut for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants in the US"
"US closes the door for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants"
"US isolates highly skilled legal immigrants"
"Broken Legal immigration system harmful to US competitiveness"
"Legal Immigration system in shambles"
I had started working on a letter myself but will wait for yours....here's my initial scribbles fyi....
Law abiding skilled legal immigrants persecuted by government misstep
On 7/2/07 the door was slammed shut for many skilled legal immigrants without notice while only 2 weeks earlier these same legal immigrants had been notified that the final stage of their immigration i.e.: green card processing, could begin. This occurred not because these legal immigrants had not followed the rules but rather due to scandalous government actions. These actions have caused outrage & devastation amongst skilled legal immigrants and immigration attorneys alike who question the government�s credibility and the government�s disregard for precedent and the law. The results may be costly litigation and a class action lawsuit by the governing body, the American Immigration Lawyers Association against the government.
Much focus has been placed on illegal immigrants in this country. Yet, the broken immigration system holds ominous consequences for skilled legal immigrants which the US needs to remain competitive and at the forefront of technological and medical development. The obsolete immigration laws do not address this need and government missteps further contribute to the persecution of law abiding skilled legal immigrants who wait patiently in line and live with severe restrictions for many years while their immigration cases are processed.
....I was going to continue with information on the visa bulleting and IV etc.....
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snram4
01-18 01:07 PM
I do not know any information about potential lawsuit ,lawyers view etc. Many members are similar situation.How can you expect contribution?
How much you are ready to contribute for the law suit. Dont you have any job. Once you get your GC what are you still doing here. just eating everyone's head. Are you adding value here. Please go away.
How much you are ready to contribute for the law suit. Dont you have any job. Once you get your GC what are you still doing here. just eating everyone's head. Are you adding value here. Please go away.
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thepaew
12-13 04:24 PM
The US Constitution is a very concise document. Here is a link to it.
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
I don't think that per-country caps on immigration are unconstitutional. Please note that I am affected by this and would be very happy if the caps are lifted, but I do not think that this approach is viable and that this is the best use of our limited resources.
I also disagree with your premise that corporations want to see the caps lifted.
we, as non citizens, obviously do not have all the rights that the citizens possess. We don't know whether this rule is or is not constitutional (And as someone rightly pointed out that the expertise of a constitutional attorney is required).
However if it can be shown that certain citizens/corporations ( for example microsoft, google etc who also make efforts and lobby congress to change the law ) are unduly disadvantaged by this per country cap, then they can be plaintiff. So in a sense, we have allies in the corporate sector with tons of money (and who want to make more!) So they might be willing to support us,
if it is indeed found that the rule can be challenged.
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
I don't think that per-country caps on immigration are unconstitutional. Please note that I am affected by this and would be very happy if the caps are lifted, but I do not think that this approach is viable and that this is the best use of our limited resources.
I also disagree with your premise that corporations want to see the caps lifted.
we, as non citizens, obviously do not have all the rights that the citizens possess. We don't know whether this rule is or is not constitutional (And as someone rightly pointed out that the expertise of a constitutional attorney is required).
However if it can be shown that certain citizens/corporations ( for example microsoft, google etc who also make efforts and lobby congress to change the law ) are unduly disadvantaged by this per country cap, then they can be plaintiff. So in a sense, we have allies in the corporate sector with tons of money (and who want to make more!) So they might be willing to support us,
if it is indeed found that the rule can be challenged.
BharatPremi
12-14 12:51 PM
If they change the current law to favor Indians, then it will be disciminatory to other nationals. Think the other way..
You may be almost 100% right and everybody is trying to take the sense out of this. Lazy*and Mark almost have given the proof that "We can't do this"..
Good, we will not have a problem if we get assured about this 100%.
But one thing I do not understand is your interpretation (in quots)... If at all anything we are asking is what "Remove Per Country based ceilings" but how can somebody with high skill translate that into what you quoted?
If that happens, Indians will be benefited , yes that is not a favor, and if at all for the sake of argument even if we "tag" the word "favored"...Chinese,Mexicans,Philipinos will also be "favored".. So if they remove this ceiling then in reality it would be a "Equal ground for every national" And in that nobody can argue that "It is discriminatory to other nationals".
You may be almost 100% right and everybody is trying to take the sense out of this. Lazy*and Mark almost have given the proof that "We can't do this"..
Good, we will not have a problem if we get assured about this 100%.
But one thing I do not understand is your interpretation (in quots)... If at all anything we are asking is what "Remove Per Country based ceilings" but how can somebody with high skill translate that into what you quoted?
If that happens, Indians will be benefited , yes that is not a favor, and if at all for the sake of argument even if we "tag" the word "favored"...Chinese,Mexicans,Philipinos will also be "favored".. So if they remove this ceiling then in reality it would be a "Equal ground for every national" And in that nobody can argue that "It is discriminatory to other nationals".
chanduv23
08-15 11:39 PM
Wow what a good definition for a terrorist...can we let him go free? Ask the people who lost their loved ones. Try the same with Soudi Arabia or anyother Arab countries.
Yes, ofcourse he is a demon. There are hundereds of thousands of people are dying without food. Not everyone is taking the arms and killing innocent people. He is a fanatic. He deserves nothing less than death. He should be cut into pieces and should be a lesson for other terrorist.
Ok, if Kasab is cut into pieces - it does not help in anyway. Kasab is a "reqruit" and personally does not have a give/take on this.
Yes, ofcourse he is a demon. There are hundereds of thousands of people are dying without food. Not everyone is taking the arms and killing innocent people. He is a fanatic. He deserves nothing less than death. He should be cut into pieces and should be a lesson for other terrorist.
Ok, if Kasab is cut into pieces - it does not help in anyway. Kasab is a "reqruit" and personally does not have a give/take on this.
