sunty
11-13 02:57 PM
Waiting for the January bulletin is good...The spillover "might" happen then. But we should prepare and be ready from our side, with letters, appointments with Congressmen/Senators etc., so that we can immediately start action once the Jan bulletin is out.
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days_go_by
11-20 10:49 PM
I agree with you. Only sick ppl are frustrated with delay in GC.
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I think there are more than 6500 people here who are suffering from this disease then, about time we find a cure for it?
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I think there are more than 6500 people here who are suffering from this disease then, about time we find a cure for it?
new_horizon
10-23 12:40 AM
my detailed post went missing:mad: ...dunno why nojoke edited it out :D.
to put it briefly, i never heard anybody hiring a ceo based on his experience of having organized the company picnic (read community organizer to prez :rolleyes:).
to put it briefly, i never heard anybody hiring a ceo based on his experience of having organized the company picnic (read community organizer to prez :rolleyes:).
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g_mat
09-26 11:00 PM
Dear Reader,
Thank you for your interest in FSB. We admit that there was a
mischaracterization of the Capitol Hill rally in the story and it was
corrected as soon we realized the error.
We have changed the story to correctly identify the mission as a protest of
the long delays in securing green cards for highly-skilled workers already
in the U.S.
We will work to avoid errors like this in the future.
Best regards,
FSB
On 9/26/07 10:26 AM, "a.viewer@CNNmoney.com" a.viewer@CNNmoney.com> wrote:
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Eilene,
Thank you for addressing skilled workers shortage in your article "Wanted :
Foreign Workers". However the rally held in Washington DC is by Legal Skilled Immigrant Workers ( not mostly legal) to address the delay in securing a Permanent Residency through employment. Majority of the workers are waiting for atleast 6-8 years in the same job on temporary visas, not availing the job progression which their education, skills and experience would otherwise offer on the permanent visa.
Appreciate your effort in drawing the attention to one of major issues a vast
majority of the American business is now facing.
Kind Regards
Gigi Mathews
Thank you for your interest in FSB. We admit that there was a
mischaracterization of the Capitol Hill rally in the story and it was
corrected as soon we realized the error.
We have changed the story to correctly identify the mission as a protest of
the long delays in securing green cards for highly-skilled workers already
in the U.S.
We will work to avoid errors like this in the future.
Best regards,
FSB
On 9/26/07 10:26 AM, "a.viewer@CNNmoney.com" a.viewer@CNNmoney.com> wrote:
Mail re: CNNMoney.com reader comment
send_to:
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name:
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detail:
Eilene,
Thank you for addressing skilled workers shortage in your article "Wanted :
Foreign Workers". However the rally held in Washington DC is by Legal Skilled Immigrant Workers ( not mostly legal) to address the delay in securing a Permanent Residency through employment. Majority of the workers are waiting for atleast 6-8 years in the same job on temporary visas, not availing the job progression which their education, skills and experience would otherwise offer on the permanent visa.
Appreciate your effort in drawing the attention to one of major issues a vast
majority of the American business is now facing.
Kind Regards
Gigi Mathews
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abhijitp
03-05 02:34 PM
Many of them during the letters campaign, and most are ready to buy a home within a year of getting their green cards!
On ther other hand I personally know a very highly educated guy (IITBombay, MS then PhD in Electrical Eng- with a specialization in wireless tech) who got his EB GC 2-3 years too late... by that time the tech boom was over but the housing boom had already begun... so he decided to wait a few more years. Now he feels bad about the whole thing, and wonders if he should have bought a home when he was on H1B-- even if it would be frought with risk! That way, he would have been a millionaire today-- just like his friends who got their GCs and bought homes well in time.
8 years later, the history is repeating itself.
500,000+ people are patiently waiting in the EB GC queue... and chances are they will helplessly watch as home prices hit the bottom, and then rebound a few years later.
Some of them might decide to take the plunge and buy a home to take advantage of the low prices. However, many of them may be simply denied this chance becasuse their future is tied to a plastic card that has to be renewed every year!
Singhsa, sorry cannot help you right now with the media... maybe you can try getting help from the IV-media team?
On ther other hand I personally know a very highly educated guy (IITBombay, MS then PhD in Electrical Eng- with a specialization in wireless tech) who got his EB GC 2-3 years too late... by that time the tech boom was over but the housing boom had already begun... so he decided to wait a few more years. Now he feels bad about the whole thing, and wonders if he should have bought a home when he was on H1B-- even if it would be frought with risk! That way, he would have been a millionaire today-- just like his friends who got their GCs and bought homes well in time.
8 years later, the history is repeating itself.
500,000+ people are patiently waiting in the EB GC queue... and chances are they will helplessly watch as home prices hit the bottom, and then rebound a few years later.
Some of them might decide to take the plunge and buy a home to take advantage of the low prices. However, many of them may be simply denied this chance becasuse their future is tied to a plastic card that has to be renewed every year!
Singhsa, sorry cannot help you right now with the media... maybe you can try getting help from the IV-media team?
anurakt
11-17 12:49 PM
That's probably the path most people with (EB3 2003 onwards/EB2 2004 onwards) will take from now on. The only hurdle is there is no clarity about the law regarding H1B extensions granted on an approved I-140. Most people have run out of H1B and will have to change jobs on the extensions. I hope USCIS issues a clear guidance on this issue. Also you might not have to let go of the priority date if your company is kind enough.
I don't care if the company is kind enought or not. Damn it .....it's my life and I want to control my own destiny.... a green card , red card, yellow card cannot make me beg anybody !! I have decided that I will keep switching on extensions and keep getting three extensions ....
If CIR / SKLIL happens , it would just be a bonus. But I will definitely help IV financially and morally all the time.....
EVERYONE SHOULD CONTRIBUTE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WIN OR LOSE IT DOESN'T MATTER ....... WHAT MATTER THE MOST IS THAT WE GAVE OUR BEST SHOT AT IT.... AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL THAT U DIDN'T TRY ENOUGH TO KILL THE CROCODILE. !!
I URGE THE MEMBERS TO KEEP CONTRIBUTIING TO IV.... NUMBERUSA HAS TON OF MONEY TO PUSH THEIR SIDE.....
I don't care if the company is kind enought or not. Damn it .....it's my life and I want to control my own destiny.... a green card , red card, yellow card cannot make me beg anybody !! I have decided that I will keep switching on extensions and keep getting three extensions ....
If CIR / SKLIL happens , it would just be a bonus. But I will definitely help IV financially and morally all the time.....
EVERYONE SHOULD CONTRIBUTE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WIN OR LOSE IT DOESN'T MATTER ....... WHAT MATTER THE MOST IS THAT WE GAVE OUR BEST SHOT AT IT.... AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL THAT U DIDN'T TRY ENOUGH TO KILL THE CROCODILE. !!
I URGE THE MEMBERS TO KEEP CONTRIBUTIING TO IV.... NUMBERUSA HAS TON OF MONEY TO PUSH THEIR SIDE.....
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Thank you gsc999. I will be emailing you contact information of more members.
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GCDream
02-09 04:23 PM
They wasted 580 EB3 India visas last year (2009).
Total available EB3 India GC Visas per year: 2802
Used: 2222
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV_2.pdf
Total available EB3 India GC Visas per year: 2802
Used: 2222
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV_2.pdf
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nitinboston
04-09 04:19 PM
Dear Mrs. Hillary Clinton
Heartfelt thanks for making such an effort to answer consumer grievances. My Admiration for this administration and their efforts to improve communication is growing exponentially every day. God Bless you and God Bless America.
We are wringing these questions in effort to understand the VISA allocation processes followed by DOS. Also how it affects effectively petitioners live to plan their future, travel, Buying house etc...
1.0) Is IVACS primary application for tracking VISA requests from USCIS, Consular posts?
Rationale: Any Software/Application used by DOS should be single source for data entry of all the new application.
1.1) Does IVACS system (DOS�s Inventory system) connects electronically to USCIS system, Consular posts or NVC or any other agencies for VISA demand requests?
Rationale: Any Software/Application used by DOS need talk to Client System (USCIS, Consular posts, NVC or other agencies) every month system for effectively moving VISA bulletin every month.
1.2) In Absence of Interface � Does IVACS system receive VISA demand sent manually through flat file or spreadsheet?
Rationale: In absence of electronic interface DOS need to manually receive data for effectively predicting VISA bulletin every month.
2.0) How many Employment-based I485 VISA demands are pending at USCIS, NVC, Consular posts?
Rationale: We are trying to get Employment based pending applications.
3.0) IS this last Pending EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf on 4/8/2010 - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf includes all the Employment based I485 VISA demand?
Rationale: We are trying to confirm data received are all inclusive.
4.0) Can DOS Enhance/publish table for �total number of VISA available�� as on report preparation date, rather than total Fiscal availability. As per table showed below,
Rationale: This will help applicants to estimate date of approval and plan for buying house, make major move etc.
Preference China Demand India Demand Maxico Philippines ROW Worldwide limit
Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal
E1
E2
E3
E4
E5
5.0) Can DOS generate monthly VISA returns report from USCIS, NVC, Consular posts or any other agencies that demands Employment VISA?
Rationale: This will help us understand how much visa were available for reallocation.
6.0) INA section Sec 201 (2) mentions usages of visa per �Calendar Quarter� with maximum limit of 27% per quarter. As EB2 & EB3 categories are retro gassed Are Minimum 140k/4 Visa's consumed every quarter? If no which section of INA being applied to not to do so?
Rationale: To understand DOS�s interpretation and application of the law.
7.0) Where we can find DOS published monthly EB/FB permanent residency VISA demand report with country of chargeability, Employment based category (for e.g. EB1, EB2, EB3, �), similar to report published by DOL.
Rationale: This will help applicants to estimate date of approval and plan for buying house, make major move etc.
8.0) What is rational of EB3-India Visa allocation only approximately 100 a month? We feel that before EB3-I become unavailable it should get 140*7%*28.6% = 2802/12 VISA�s every month. EB3-I VISA reductions from Inventory reports before their Priority Date is as follows,
a) Between Inventory Published 03/12/10 & 01/30/10 = 100
b) Between Inventory Published between 01/30/10 & 04/08/10 = 100
Rationale: This will help EB3 applicants to estimate date of approval to plan their future for house Purchase or major move etc.
9.0) How do you propose to reconcile the pending data reported by DOS and USCIS.
We are Comparing data from two sources USCIS published pending inventory and DOS published monthly determination, And we have Found data Differences for following categories,
USCIS Pending for EB3-China as on March 08, 2010 === 5,575
DOS Pending for EB3-China as on March 01, 2010 === 8,900
Rationale: Closing gap in case of data error.
References:
i. EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf
ii. Operation of the Numerical Control Process - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Immigrant%20Visa%20Control%20System_operation%20of .pdf
Dude i must say, it must have taken a huge effort to come up with all this. But guess what, it wont make a dent. There are way too many Indians, Chinese and Mexicans in line and too few GC's to give out.
Heartfelt thanks for making such an effort to answer consumer grievances. My Admiration for this administration and their efforts to improve communication is growing exponentially every day. God Bless you and God Bless America.
We are wringing these questions in effort to understand the VISA allocation processes followed by DOS. Also how it affects effectively petitioners live to plan their future, travel, Buying house etc...
1.0) Is IVACS primary application for tracking VISA requests from USCIS, Consular posts?
Rationale: Any Software/Application used by DOS should be single source for data entry of all the new application.
1.1) Does IVACS system (DOS�s Inventory system) connects electronically to USCIS system, Consular posts or NVC or any other agencies for VISA demand requests?
Rationale: Any Software/Application used by DOS need talk to Client System (USCIS, Consular posts, NVC or other agencies) every month system for effectively moving VISA bulletin every month.
1.2) In Absence of Interface � Does IVACS system receive VISA demand sent manually through flat file or spreadsheet?
Rationale: In absence of electronic interface DOS need to manually receive data for effectively predicting VISA bulletin every month.
2.0) How many Employment-based I485 VISA demands are pending at USCIS, NVC, Consular posts?
Rationale: We are trying to get Employment based pending applications.
3.0) IS this last Pending EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf on 4/8/2010 - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf includes all the Employment based I485 VISA demand?
Rationale: We are trying to confirm data received are all inclusive.
4.0) Can DOS Enhance/publish table for �total number of VISA available�� as on report preparation date, rather than total Fiscal availability. As per table showed below,
Rationale: This will help applicants to estimate date of approval and plan for buying house, make major move etc.
Preference China Demand India Demand Maxico Philippines ROW Worldwide limit
Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal
E1
E2
E3
E4
E5
5.0) Can DOS generate monthly VISA returns report from USCIS, NVC, Consular posts or any other agencies that demands Employment VISA?
Rationale: This will help us understand how much visa were available for reallocation.
6.0) INA section Sec 201 (2) mentions usages of visa per �Calendar Quarter� with maximum limit of 27% per quarter. As EB2 & EB3 categories are retro gassed Are Minimum 140k/4 Visa's consumed every quarter? If no which section of INA being applied to not to do so?
Rationale: To understand DOS�s interpretation and application of the law.
7.0) Where we can find DOS published monthly EB/FB permanent residency VISA demand report with country of chargeability, Employment based category (for e.g. EB1, EB2, EB3, �), similar to report published by DOL.
Rationale: This will help applicants to estimate date of approval and plan for buying house, make major move etc.
8.0) What is rational of EB3-India Visa allocation only approximately 100 a month? We feel that before EB3-I become unavailable it should get 140*7%*28.6% = 2802/12 VISA�s every month. EB3-I VISA reductions from Inventory reports before their Priority Date is as follows,
a) Between Inventory Published 03/12/10 & 01/30/10 = 100
b) Between Inventory Published between 01/30/10 & 04/08/10 = 100
Rationale: This will help EB3 applicants to estimate date of approval to plan their future for house Purchase or major move etc.
9.0) How do you propose to reconcile the pending data reported by DOS and USCIS.
We are Comparing data from two sources USCIS published pending inventory and DOS published monthly determination, And we have Found data Differences for following categories,
USCIS Pending for EB3-China as on March 08, 2010 === 5,575
DOS Pending for EB3-China as on March 01, 2010 === 8,900
Rationale: Closing gap in case of data error.
References:
i. EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf
ii. Operation of the Numerical Control Process - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Immigrant%20Visa%20Control%20System_operation%20of .pdf
Dude i must say, it must have taken a huge effort to come up with all this. But guess what, it wont make a dent. There are way too many Indians, Chinese and Mexicans in line and too few GC's to give out.
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gsc999
04-20 05:23 PM
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greyhair
02-12 02:16 PM
hold on guys!!! i was the one who started this thread because i was not sure if ron was right or not but i guess seeing desi3933 comments that he is right and ron may not have the proof to justify this time.
it is good if we can get some proof of uscis wasting/not using visa but untill then please dont blame each other..
I feel the arguments desi3933 is giving.... makes most of the sense as compared to the last reply by ron which was like a general response instead of showing root cause of 13k visa lost.
peace V
Please let me clarify. This is not a question of ambiguity in the meaning of the message. Its crystal clear. One immigration body shop said that 13K visas are wasted by USCIS. It has been proven with facts that the statement made by immigration body shop is factually incorrect. Its not the first time. But you continue to ask others to look for proof of USCIS wasting visa numbers even after looking at the data. I am totally perplexed by the obsession with immigration body shop when repeatedly similar inflaming messages have been discredited in the public arena. :confused: When is enough, enough.
it is good if we can get some proof of uscis wasting/not using visa but untill then please dont blame each other..
I feel the arguments desi3933 is giving.... makes most of the sense as compared to the last reply by ron which was like a general response instead of showing root cause of 13k visa lost.
peace V
Please let me clarify. This is not a question of ambiguity in the meaning of the message. Its crystal clear. One immigration body shop said that 13K visas are wasted by USCIS. It has been proven with facts that the statement made by immigration body shop is factually incorrect. Its not the first time. But you continue to ask others to look for proof of USCIS wasting visa numbers even after looking at the data. I am totally perplexed by the obsession with immigration body shop when repeatedly similar inflaming messages have been discredited in the public arena. :confused: When is enough, enough.
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vghc
07-03 12:40 PM
If you read my earlier response, you would not be asking me this question. Just to repeat myself, I completely agree with you that wives and kids should not be included to the EB GC quota!
Fine...then there's a comon ground......:)
I don't like this Indian,China vs the ROW talk. Its just bloody depressing.
Fine...then there's a comon ground......:)
I don't like this Indian,China vs the ROW talk. Its just bloody depressing.
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alterego
07-15 10:30 AM
Ramba,
"and the alien must have intended to undertake the employment, upon adjustment"
That is the line that is the big caveat in this question. You must demonstrate to the adjudicating officer(to his/her satisfaction) that you plan to go back to your petitioning employer once your green card is approved. Either that or you invoke the AC21 statute by fulfilling those requirements.
This answer was speaking to that point.
A withdrawn 140 is a bad news on either front. Especially when it happens with the future intent clause, then how can you say you and the employer still have intent. It won't fly with the adjudicator.
With the AC21, if the 180 days has passed then 140 withdrawal often still does lead to RFE and sometimes outright denial but the MTR and appeal process can be successful on the grounds of AC21 portability rules. There are people on this forum with such experiences. Try searching for it.
Once again, this is a delicate situation and the poster is best served with good legal counsel. We are all of course giving our best layman interpretations here.
"and the alien must have intended to undertake the employment, upon adjustment"
That is the line that is the big caveat in this question. You must demonstrate to the adjudicating officer(to his/her satisfaction) that you plan to go back to your petitioning employer once your green card is approved. Either that or you invoke the AC21 statute by fulfilling those requirements.
This answer was speaking to that point.
A withdrawn 140 is a bad news on either front. Especially when it happens with the future intent clause, then how can you say you and the employer still have intent. It won't fly with the adjudicator.
With the AC21, if the 180 days has passed then 140 withdrawal often still does lead to RFE and sometimes outright denial but the MTR and appeal process can be successful on the grounds of AC21 portability rules. There are people on this forum with such experiences. Try searching for it.
Once again, this is a delicate situation and the poster is best served with good legal counsel. We are all of course giving our best layman interpretations here.
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GCard_Dream
03-18 05:57 PM
The line "But those extra numbers would need to be made available to China/India applicants on an equal basis" made me confused. I guess the statement above would still be true if India and China had equal number of pending cases with similar PDs then both countries would have received equal number of unused visas. I missed that fact that visa allocation was by PD. Thanks for the clarification.
Please see the last sentece which says "Thus, the same cut-off date for each country since the extra numbers must be made available in priority date order without regard to country".
When they use this spill over, only PD is imp not the country.
Please see the last sentece which says "Thus, the same cut-off date for each country since the extra numbers must be made available in priority date order without regard to country".
When they use this spill over, only PD is imp not the country.
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sukhwinderd
02-21 07:25 PM
people from cary, NC ; boston; detroit; orlando; new jersey till now.
need more participation from these areas as well as from other states.
need more participation from these areas as well as from other states.
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ash123
02-12 03:41 PM
FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.
I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.
While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
foreign professionals'.
Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.
How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?
Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.
With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).
Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.
These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
(companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.
Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
Then your employer fires you....
There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.
Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
software professional.
Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.
The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.
This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.
What should the USCIS do?
Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.
What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?
Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.
Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.
Confident and free people contribute positively:
If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.
Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....
God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.
Thanks.
I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.
While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
foreign professionals'.
Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.
How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?
Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.
With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).
Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.
These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
(companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.
Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
Then your employer fires you....
There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.
Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
software professional.
Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.
The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.
This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.
What should the USCIS do?
Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.
What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?
Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.
Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.
Confident and free people contribute positively:
If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.
Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....
God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.
Thanks.
girlfriend sheltering Osama bin Laden
shantanup
02-04 10:39 AM
Some questions to those who are supporting country cap.
Why not put a country cap on foreign students’ visas since many of them get into the green card line eventually?
Why not put a country cap on H1B visas since many of them get into the green card line eventually?
Why not put a country cap on labor certifications?
Why not put a country cap on I-140s?
Why not impose a country cap at the port of entry?
Why not put a country cap on visitors’ visas?
Why not put a country cap on business visas?
Why not put a country cap on US trade with other countries?
Why not put a country cap on amount of US $ reserves that each country can have?
Why not put a country cap on children that foreigners in the US can bear?
Why not put a country cap on the foreigners’ earnings in the US?
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And the list can go on.
Putting country cap on greens cards serves a hidden racist agenda of not letting the people of one particular ethnic group grow in number and become strong.
Why not put a country cap on foreign students’ visas since many of them get into the green card line eventually?
Why not put a country cap on H1B visas since many of them get into the green card line eventually?
Why not put a country cap on labor certifications?
Why not put a country cap on I-140s?
Why not impose a country cap at the port of entry?
Why not put a country cap on visitors’ visas?
Why not put a country cap on business visas?
Why not put a country cap on US trade with other countries?
Why not put a country cap on amount of US $ reserves that each country can have?
Why not put a country cap on children that foreigners in the US can bear?
Why not put a country cap on the foreigners’ earnings in the US?
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.
.
And the list can go on.
Putting country cap on greens cards serves a hidden racist agenda of not letting the people of one particular ethnic group grow in number and become strong.
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pbuckeye
02-12 03:06 PM
What advertisement? I was just trying to see if there was any truth in "he who shall not be named" 's assumption. I am convinced of the facts now, which was the point to begin with. Does every post have to be part of an agenda (too much Zee TV watching )?
thanks to kumarc123 for bringing some comic relief to this wound up thread.
P.S. The Zee TV bit was a joke, I am not an advertiser for that channel as well.
thanks to kumarc123 for bringing some comic relief to this wound up thread.
P.S. The Zee TV bit was a joke, I am not an advertiser for that channel as well.
greyhair
02-09 02:33 PM
Why am I not suprised with this news?
I think it is self evident that even though there is some spill over I think large number of visa's are getting wasted. Else last year we should have seen better movement than just wrapping up 2004. In 2008 there were so many people with 2005 & 2006 PD who were approved. I think it was either inefficiency on part of USCIS or a go slow directive from the administation that has caused visa wastage.
One immigration business shop says that visas are being wasted and that's our proof. We are now ready to list the reasons why visa numbers are being wasted. Not only the visas have been wasted but according to you the reason for wastage are -
1.) Inefficiency
2.) Directive from the administration
But before that, can anybody prove conclusively that visa numbers were wasted. What is the proof? Just because my application is pending doesn't mean that USCIS is wasting green card numbers. Give us all proof that visa numbers are being wasted. Where is the proof. Around 20 days back I wrote an email to the immigration business shop asking for proof of waste of visa numbers. No response.
I think it is self evident that even though there is some spill over I think large number of visa's are getting wasted. Else last year we should have seen better movement than just wrapping up 2004. In 2008 there were so many people with 2005 & 2006 PD who were approved. I think it was either inefficiency on part of USCIS or a go slow directive from the administation that has caused visa wastage.
One immigration business shop says that visas are being wasted and that's our proof. We are now ready to list the reasons why visa numbers are being wasted. Not only the visas have been wasted but according to you the reason for wastage are -
1.) Inefficiency
2.) Directive from the administration
But before that, can anybody prove conclusively that visa numbers were wasted. What is the proof? Just because my application is pending doesn't mean that USCIS is wasting green card numbers. Give us all proof that visa numbers are being wasted. Where is the proof. Around 20 days back I wrote an email to the immigration business shop asking for proof of waste of visa numbers. No response.
mchundi
07-24 10:32 AM
To the core group/Senior Members,
If I understand it right, the ability to concurrently file I40/I485 was introduced by the legacy INS through a memo in July of 2002 and it went effective almost immediately on July 31st 2002. I've tried to search for news archives on different law websites and to best of my knowledge it was purely an executive decision taken by INS governing body and no congressional or judicial intervention was needed to allow concurrent filing. In a very similar fashion, the new USCIS has indicated that it wants to discontinue concurrent filing in near future...an executive decision again.
Is it a possibility to get an audience with the USCIS director/start a letter campaign with the goal of getting them issue a memo allowing filing of I485/EAD even if the visa number is not available? The adjucation of the case would obviously happen only after visa number becomes available but as we all know this will be a big relief for all those who want to use AC21 provisions.
Passage of CIR/SKIL is very important in the longer run to reduce the overall greencard processing time and alleviate heavy backlogs but if we get this small relief right now it would help a lot of individuals from retrogressed countries waiting to file I485...and the good thing is, it looks like USCIS might have the ability to effect this change without a lengthy legislative process.
Any thoughts ??
In the recently released ombudsman's report there was a concern that USCIS is giving EAD's for all AOS applications without checking the case and later rejects 20% of the cases.
It might be tough to push them to take a decesion like this.
On the other hand the hospital and doctor's lobby is going to push for some more relief for the nurses VISA numbers if the CIR doesnot materialize this year, If that happens we can try and lobby to attach some of our issues to that.
--MC
If I understand it right, the ability to concurrently file I40/I485 was introduced by the legacy INS through a memo in July of 2002 and it went effective almost immediately on July 31st 2002. I've tried to search for news archives on different law websites and to best of my knowledge it was purely an executive decision taken by INS governing body and no congressional or judicial intervention was needed to allow concurrent filing. In a very similar fashion, the new USCIS has indicated that it wants to discontinue concurrent filing in near future...an executive decision again.
Is it a possibility to get an audience with the USCIS director/start a letter campaign with the goal of getting them issue a memo allowing filing of I485/EAD even if the visa number is not available? The adjucation of the case would obviously happen only after visa number becomes available but as we all know this will be a big relief for all those who want to use AC21 provisions.
Passage of CIR/SKIL is very important in the longer run to reduce the overall greencard processing time and alleviate heavy backlogs but if we get this small relief right now it would help a lot of individuals from retrogressed countries waiting to file I485...and the good thing is, it looks like USCIS might have the ability to effect this change without a lengthy legislative process.
Any thoughts ??
In the recently released ombudsman's report there was a concern that USCIS is giving EAD's for all AOS applications without checking the case and later rejects 20% of the cases.
It might be tough to push them to take a decesion like this.
On the other hand the hospital and doctor's lobby is going to push for some more relief for the nurses VISA numbers if the CIR doesnot materialize this year, If that happens we can try and lobby to attach some of our issues to that.
--MC
